Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward
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In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.
We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.
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01:47 Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
04:56 The Turning Point: New York Times Article
05:25 Connecting with the UFO Community
05:58 Meeting Lue Elizondo
07:19 The Stigma of UFOs in the Legal World
13:04 Professional Relationship with Elizondo
18:19 The Controversial Congressional Briefing
30:04 The Role of Public Figures in UFO Disclosure
34:49 Moving Beyond Mistakes: Embracing Disclosure
36:21 Humanity in the UFO Community
37:17 Security Clearances
38:13 Changing Perspectives on UFOs
41:14 Childhood Training and Testing Programs
45:39 Government Cover-ups and Public Outrage
48:32 Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence
01:01:36 Congressional Handling of UFO Disclosure
01:12:06 Government Accountability and Ufology
01:13:22 Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
01:13:35 Senator Rounds and Blue Sky Technology
01:15:08 Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
01:19:14 Impact of Recent Hearings
01:27:31 The Importance of Drone Technology
01:40:44 Final Thoughts and Call to Action
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